with Angels by Gitta Mallasz
introduction by Betsy Whitfill
Talking with Angels is the true story of four friends living in
Hungary who, in the midst of World War II, received teachings from Beings
they called Angels.
Living in a small village outside Budapest, Gitta Mallasz and her three
Jewish companions, Lili, Hanna and Hanna's husband Joseph, had been deeply
disturbed by the increasing numbers of arrests. The period was one of
political tension and terror as the Nazis swept across Hungary, capturing
and deporting Jews.
In the hope of assuaging their feeling that, as Gitta wrote, they "had
come to an ending and something was about to happen", they agreed to
write down their concerns, and discuss them together. One day, Hanna remarked
to Gitta that her writings were very superficial. As she was speaking, she
suddenly had a vision in which a "strange force" took Gitta's
notes, tore them up and threw them on the floor. Unnerved, she then told
Gitta: "It is not I who will speak to you." The next time she
spoke, Hanna mouthed the words: "Enough of your shallow questions!
It is time for you to be responsible for yourself!" This was the
beginning of the communications from the 'Angels'.
On 25 June 1943 the first of 88 dialogues was given by the Angels. Gitta
wrote down the Angels' words, 'spoken' through Hanna, who said that she
was "filled with a bright light, but there is nothing joyous about
it. On the contrary, it illuminates my darkest interior with merciless clarity
and I am compelled to see myself without deception". The Angel told
her: "The seed will not be sown on hard ground. You will be tilled
by endless searching. What has been good will become bad. What has been
bad will become good." The angel invited her to ask a question,
but she was so overwhelmed that she could not think of one, and the dialogue
Hanna described her experience during the dialogue as being in a state
of heightened perception. She could see the room and Gitta clearly, and
knew what Gitta was experiencing inwardly, while simultaneously being
aware of the Angel, whose feelings were, she said, of an entirely different
quality from those of ordinary people. She described them as "indignation",
"love" or "tenderness". Gitta and Hanna were totally
surprised by the visitation, since they considered themselves to be very
average people. When they told Joseph and Lili of their experience, Joseph
was skeptical but Lili asked to be present at the next dialogue.
The early dialogues were predominantly with Gitta and Lili, during which
they asked personal questions, revealing the process of this new relationship.
For example, Gitta was often overwhelmed by her emotions. Her Angel taught
that emotion and sentiment blocked her contact with him. But, he said, if
she raised herself "up to the infinite" they could always
be together. Her task was "to shine with true feeling",
to be so inwardly bright that anyone who looked at her was awakened. False
feeling, he told her, moves in waves - loving first one thing, then another.
True feeling is inwardly motionless, loves everything, and "shines".
He further explained that matter and spirit meet in the eyes, where the
force "ignites and radiates out". If, with emotion, you block
the rising force of true feeling at the throat, you choke it off, "But
if you offer it up to the Divine just as it reaches the throat, the force
becomes transformed into Light, which rises up and shines out through the
In one of the later dialogues the Angel told the four: "Raise up
your feelings and the vibration will intensify. What raises feelings? Longings?
No. Faith? It is only a possibility. The force which raises feelings is
the offering of yourself, the giving of yourself."
Lili, a movement therapist and teacher, was called by her Angel "the
one who helps". She had a very earnest nature, but struggled with
depression and nervousness, which, her Angel said, would disappear when
she began to act according to her task - to express "overflowing
love", the Divine within. When she asked whether she would receive
help with her work, the Angel responded that she must begin by herself,
and then help would come. He told her that if she wished or wanted to see
him again, she would not see him. She would see him, however, when her task
required it. Everything, he said, would depend on the intensity of her effort.
The Angel told all of them to end wishing and wanting. They were not to
depend on anything for support, but to have faith only in the Divine. "What
appears to be your surest support will become the darkest void. Do not seize
the support or you yourself will become the void."
The idea of self-reliance permeated all the dialogues and was delivered
with increasing emphasis as they moved from their village to Budapest to
escape Nazi arrest. The Angels counseled them to be independent and rid
themselves of old habits ("habit is death"), and never
to look back. They taught true humility, which is recognized when "bowing
the head uplifts". They taught that evil is "the no longer
good", and is created by man. They were not to try to change the
bad, but to strengthen the good, which would absorb the bad all around it.
Hate, they taught, is a mask for fear and shame.
Hanna's Angel was "the One who measures", whom Gitta described
as being a "presence of such measured and grave dignity and strength"
that he frightened her: she called him the "Angel of Divine Justice".
He taught them that the Divine gives each a measure, and that it does not
matter whether one's measure is big or small, but that giving according
to one's measure is the source of joy, which returns, in full measure, to
the one who gives. In giving, he said, one acts in union with the Divine,
which gives everything. He regularly assessed their capacity to give, to
serve, which he called their acts, often admonishing them.
"What is measured by 'the one who measures'? Space. The circle in
which your hand does not act is worthless."
"The divine sows the act, and the human receives it. Circle and
act exist in time and space. And O measures them through me. (O is the Hungarian
pronoun used by the Angels for the Divine.)
"The weighing scales are empty: your acts are insufficient. It bores
me to measure emptiness: I long to offer fruit. The Divine expects more
Joseph was a carpenter who designed and built furniture, and was always
a calm and quiet presence. His Angel called him "the one who builds",
"messenger of Heaven" whose task was to build Heaven on
Earth. "The earth below is just as near as the silence here above:
they are One. Only on the earth can the act be accomplished."
"Empty is the earth, but the Divine Hand fills it - the Hand whose
name is the Human. The Human is 'the one who builds' (Joseph). The Human
is 'the one who helps' (Lili). The Human is 'the one who shines' (Gitta).
The Human is 'the one who acts with measure' (Hanna)."
The human is the bridge between the created and the creating worlds, and
is, the Angels told them, the cradle for the New World. The four friends
symbolized the fourth kingdom in nature. The four, in raising their vibration
to that of the angels, and acting according to their task, would represent
the New Human, which is the Hand of the Divine. Becoming that link was the
united task of Hanna, Joseph, Lili and Gitta, and by extension the ultimate
goal of all humans as they rise in consciousness to become Human, acting
as expressions (the Hand) of the Divine. The angels told them: "Heaven
is within you."
To escape the increasing threat of arrest by the Nazis the four moved to
Hanna's parents' vacant apartment in Budapest, but the situation rapidly
worsened. They became depressed and fearful for their safety, prompting
the "One who measures" to beg them: "Serve! Serve
day and night! To stand still is forbidden! You have been entrusted with
many talents and you must account for them. Behold! It is wonderful to serve
the Divine! Blossom - bear flowers! I implore you!"
Several times, the Angels emphasized that they must choose, decide and,
without looking back, act to bring about the New World in which joy (giving)
is the air, peace is the vibration. "Swear to Heaven that you will
bring it about."
The Angels assured them that through the teaching and stimulation given
through the dialogues, the four were fully capable of living their tasks
they must act. "The Creator creates the divine Plan eternally through
us, but without you, nothing can be."
"Heaven speaks: The earth will receive wings through us and through
you. If you speak through us: We stand on the earth. If we act through you,
you receive wings."
On the eve of Joseph's deportation to what they later learned was a concentration
camp (where he died), one of the Angels told the four that they
were effective only if they acted together. They were the voices of the
'New Song' - whether they are together physically or not. The New Song
Angels said, the new vibration "attuned to the Divine - it is named
Joseph's fate prompted Gitta to search for a way to save Hanna and Lili
from deportation. An influential friend told her of a secret plan to save
100 Jewish women and children by setting up a factory in a vacant cloister
in Buda. It would ostensibly be for the production of war materials, sewing
uniforms, and thus in accord with the Hungarian War Ministry's plans,
and under its protection. It would also be under the protection of the
clergy in charge of the cloister. Since she was the daughter of a former
high-ranking Austrian military officer in the Hungarian army, Gitta was
offered, and accepted, the job of 'voluntary Commander' of the factory.
Hanna and Lili were among those employed there.
Gitta's office was a shed in the cloister garden, where dialogues continued,
although the Angels told them that they were no longer to ask the Angels
on behalf of themselves because they had been "given all":
"Those who no longer ask for themselves act."
During the dialogue on the Summer Solstice of 21 June 1944, the Angel told
them: "Your asking creates, both here above and there below. Now
the new sound vibrates. Now the new sun rises. Just now, when the old sun
is at its zenith. Now everything begins. The turning point is now. From
eternity to eternity. Amen." Gitta sensed the beginning of a new
phase in human evolution.
The Angels spoke of the New Love - "continuous giving":
"The greatest gift given us by the divine is that we may give."
"No longer action and reaction; no longer reward and punishment;
no longer knife and caressing."
"In the church, everyone pleads and begs. But this is not your way.
Your heart and His are One. This is not a gift: it is your task. Never again
raise your head to ask for yourself. You are being begged for deliverance.
Open your arms wide! Give: always give! Act: always act!"
The many dialogues, which included long silences in which the Angels provided
much stimulation, were creating the desired results. One of the women
in the factory noticed that Hanna's face was "radiant" when
she returned to the factory after spending time in Gitta's office. She
asked, and was invited, to attend the dialogues. Years later, she reported
to Gitta that she had heard all the words Hanna spoke inside herself.
The woman who shared Lili's shed became so devoted to her that she too
asked to join in the dialogues.
The Angels' final dialogue, on 24 November 1944, ended with the words: "Believe:
Eternal Life is already yours."
On 2 December 1944 Hungarian Nazis stormed the gates of the cloister.
Gitta had previously enlisted protection for the women from the German
SS soldiers camped next door, so she raced to them for help. They stood
guard and hurried the Jewish women and children through a hole in a wall
to safety in the forest beyond. Gitta managed to delay the Hungarian soldiers
long enough for most of the women to escape, but 13 of them stayed behind,
were captured and sent to Ravensbrück concentration camp. Lili and
Hanna were among them. Gitta surmised that they had stayed behind in order
to save her, fearing she would have been shot if there were no women left
for the Hungarian Nazis to arrest.
Lili and Hanna later died in the camp. Hanna had often told Gitta that
of all of them, she must survive and give the dialogues to the world.
One of the 13 women later told Gitta that, in the camp, Lili was such
a loving force that the other prisoners would voluntarily work with her
at the most difficult labour.
Hanna, she added had convinced her that although she had been beaten,
the degradation of the beatings could not touch her, and so she was able
withstand the trials of the camp and to survive. Gitta lived for some years
'underground' in Hungary to help her parents. When they died in 1960, she
moved to Paris, married, and translated the dialogues from Hungarian into
French. A friend took them to a prominent French radio journalist, Claude
Mettra, who interviewed Gitta on his Radio France program The Living
and the Gods in April 1976. The interview drew such acclaim that the
dialogues were published in Paris that year as Dialogues avec l'Ange.
Despite many invitations to speak publicly, Gitta retired to the countryside
with her husband until 1983, when she accepted an invitation to speak at
the CG Jung Institute in Zurich. The response was so tremendous that she
agreed to speaking tours throughout Europe, and subsequently wrote three
books based on questions asked during her tours: Die Engel erlebt
("The Angels Experienced"), Weltenmorgen ("Dawning
World"), and Sprung ins Unbekannte ("Leap into the Unknown").
From 1984 the dialogues were translated into English, and published in 1988.
Gitta died in May 1992.
Gitta Mallasz (transcribed by): Talking with Angels. Daimon, Switzerland,
1998. ISBN 3-85630-564-5
from: Share International December 2004
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